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Where the women aren’t

Written by Josh Oppenheimer, Senior Writer
Published: Tuesday, November 10th, 2009
It started as typical Tower Club small talk. Stephanie Burset ’09 was casually chatting with another female junior in the club who asked her whether she planned to run for president in the upcoming club officer elections. But after Burset ...(back to the article)

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  • 1:47 a.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    chief illiniwek

    "An all-male corps of club presidents may have more implications for prospective students and underclassmen who are forming their conceptions of eating club leadership than on the current memberships of the clubs."

    Freshmen are generally pretty ignorant of little facts like these. Just saying.

  • 1:54 a.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    @chief illiniwek

    so true.

  • 3:10 a.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    Female alcohol chair?

    Do any eating clubs have female alcohol chairs?

    Correspondingly, I think the real bias is that men tend to party harder, which makes them the clubs' logical figureheads

  • 3:14 a.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    Will Scharf '08

    Couple comments: (1) I'd love to see a year-by-year breakdown of female club officers, rather than just presidents. I don't know what it would show, but I think it would have added another dimension to this article. (2) Is it possible that women leaders are taking on more leadership roles than men as underclassmen -- essentially blocking themselves out of these positions? Again, I do not know the answer, but I think that it's part of the whole picture. (3) At the risk of pulling a Larry Summers, is it possible that women are just more risk averse than men are, and do not want to take on the legal liability of being a club president?

  • 10:36 a.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    Anyway

    @ Will Scharf '08: both of those points are addressed in the (fairly silly) graphs that go along with this piece.

  • 10:46 a.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    p11

    Kudos on an interesting, investigative piece on something we've all wondered about. Refreshing

  • 11:39 a.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    AC

    Differences in interest and ability matter; differences in outcome don't prove evil patriarchal discrimination.

  • 11:40 a.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    AC

    Also, men become more sexually attractive if they have high status, such as being eating club president. Women are judged mainly on appearance and thus don't get the sexual status boost.

  • 12:13 p.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    Will Scharf '08

    @ anyway:
    Nope, read my comment more carefully. The slideshow shows present numbers of female officers, but doesn't track over time. It also shows student group leadership, but doesn't address the issue I asked about: women taking on leadership roles as underclassmen (i.e. before they would be able to run for club presidencies).

  • 1:21 p.m. on Nov. 10th, 2009
    Posted by
    '07

    Since the Prince is now on a bar graph kick, please either switch from the terrible Excel default graphs or get better graphing software. These charts look like they were made for a middle school science project.

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