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Asians may face tougher college admission process, study finds

Written by Melanie Jearlds, Staff Writer
Published: Monday, October 12th, 2009
Asian applicants may face discrimination in the admission process at many elite universities, according to data from a recent study conducted by sociology professor Thomas Espenshade GS ’72.

According to the data, not all races are considered equal in the ...

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  • 12:44 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    '12er

    SURPRISE OF THE CENTURY!!!!

  • 12:51 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    TI Joes & Ivy Hoes

    Thank you, Captain Obvious.

  • 12:54 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    AC

    http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/tje/espenshade...

    All other things being equal, being a black applicant is worth 230 points on the SAT scale (out of 1600). Being Hispanic is worth 185, white is 0, and being Asian will PENALIZE you 50 points. By comparison being a legacy is only worth 160 points. Put it another way, black acceptees score 230 points below the mean, etc.

    One thing I'd love to do sometime is to ask an admissions officer why non-Asian minorities get a 200-250-point boost on the old (1600) SAT. Their stock response will be that they include many factors, including "intangibles" that conveniently can't be measured to hold admissions officers accountable. Then I'd ask them if whites and Asians were singularly deficient in these "intangibles." Of course logically that must be true, but admissions officers are PC-indoctrinated to pretend there are absolutely no differences between racial groups. The resulting logical black hole would make their heads explode.

    It doesn't stop at college admissions. Graduate school, when you'd assume that the massive affirmative action boost will have given non-Asian minorities (NAMs) more than an equal opportunity to prove themselves, show even greater differences in ability by race, which of course need to be smoothed out by reverse racism.

  • 12:58 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    AC cont'd

    Thus, for example, on the Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT), the gatekeeper for the M.B.A. degree, the mean score for whites falls, by definition, at the 50th percentile of the white distribution of scores. The mean score for black test-takers would rank at the 13th percentile among whites. Asians average a little better than the typical white, scoring at the 55th percentile.

    I'd love to see the College Republicans or some other political group start a ballot referendum to ban affirmative action in New Jersey public schools, along the lines of California Prop 209 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposition_209). Can any policy wonks get the ball rolling on this?

  • 1:07 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    chief illiniwek

    "Princeton does not discriminate on the basis of race, color or national origin"

    You can't give preference to one racial group without removing preference from others. Admissions is a zero-sum game.

  • 1:25 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    Anonymous

    How can the University claim it does not racially discriminate when qualified applicants of Asian descent are routinely rejected in lieu of less qualified students of other races. To me, that sounds like racism, pure and simple.

  • 1:28 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    Anonymous

    Asian students are less likely to integrate into the campus community, and are more likely to have less-than-fluent English skills. Seems like Princeton is just looking out for itself.

  • 1:28 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    i-banking wannabe

    In the game of college admission, Asians are the new Jews.

  • 1:30 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    @Anonymous

    "Asian students are less likely to integrate into the campus community, and are more likely to have less-than-fluent English skills"

    The former part of your statement can also apply to blacks and Latinos while the latter part can also apply to internationals. Blow me.

  • 1:31 a.m. on Oct. 12th, 2009
    Posted by
    @ AC

    Not sure if you noticed, but any state-wide ban on affirmative action wouldn't affect Princeton (where, presumably, Asians are hurt the most by the admissions process), as Princeton's a _private_ institution.

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