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Where the heartlessness is

Published: Monday, December 1st, 2008
Princeton's eating clubs have a wide base of support and draw goodwill from many students and alumni. In the past, the editorial board has argued that eating clubs usually serve as spaces that foster an organic, undergraduate-focused atmosphere, initiated ...(back to the article)

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  • 1:16 a.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    The University Sucks More

    What's even more elitist than this is the fact that you have to buy an expensive meal contract with the university just to get good housing. The poorer independent students must live in the slums with bad kitchens while wealthier students live in the four-year colleges with good housing. Shame on Malkiel and Hodgeman.

  • 2:27 a.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    keeping it preppy and white

    ivy
    cottage
    ti

    elite douche bags, although I thought TI ppl would be cool enough to participate in the benefit. I was disappointed they would throw in their lot with the two clubs that keep white anglo saxon protestant traditions alive

  • 3:06 a.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    JC

    Good job editorial board - I was surprised this got so little coverage in the Prince (was there even a printed article on this?)

  • 3:20 a.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    traderjoe

    very well written - i especially like the third paragraph.

    one question for you though: what incentives do these three clubs have to join these "hunger and homeless" projects? you mention that they may get the benefit of being perceived as a club that encourages university integration, but do members from such clubs really care about that? didn't they want to join these clubs for the exact opposite reason?

  • 8:35 a.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    09-er

    This is such a wonderfully written and incisive article! Thank you. I really think it will get these clubs thinking about the wider consequences of how they treat their fellow students.

    To 'the university sucks more' -- I don't think that is true for all students. The kitchens are great in Spelman and the only time we had a problem with our stove it was fixed for free. That and we have a pretty sweet setup: 4 single bedrooms, a huge common room, a private kitchen and bathroom?

  • 10:11 a.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    090909

    I agree with the editorial but see where Ivy/Cottage/TI are coming from. In the past, those clubs have been inundated with freshmen and other tourists who saw the food drive as their only opportunity to get in. Of course, that says more about the clubs than the unwashed masses--if they weren't so unnecessarily exclusive, people would have figured out that spending a night at Cottage is simply not fun. So suck it up for a little while for a good cause, go off tap early, and reopen for members later in the night.

  • 10:41 a.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    101010

    @090909 --- Tourists? Really? They're fellow students. It wouldn't kill Ivy, TI, or Cottage to let in a few freshmen for one night, or even to be inundated. If they're too full, they can always say so. And they can continue to keep everyone out every other night, as they certainly will. The only reason they didn't participate on Saturday is that they couldn't stand to give up their "power" for one night.

  • 11:09 a.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    09

    I believe (and hope) that Ivy honored the Hunger Awareness wristbands earlier in the evening and stopped before 12....

  • 11:18 a.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    NotRetarded

    Typical of the editorial board to write something without investigating any of the facts. Regardless of what the article suggests or what my fellow posters write, the clubs are not full of heartless mindless pricks but people who do not like to be pushed around by the editorial board (tower) or anyone else.

    While donating money, food and items of clothing can make a difference this whole event lacked planning, dedication and execution.

    What was conveniently left out by the "editorial board" was that HHAW has a horrible record with keeping to its commitments and the group only notified the clubs a day or two beforehand about the event. Without regard for whatever events have already been planned the group unilaterally called a wristband night. That is arrogant to think clubs would change their theme nights and events on the whim of an extremely unreliable service group.

    What also doomed this from the start was that HHAW failed last year to keep their commitments. The 75% of Princetonians in the eating club system would've noticed many sacks of food and clothing littered around many of the eating clubs that never seem to go away. Donated items from last year HHAW had not collected.

    Do you really expect clubs like Ivy, TI, and Cottage to change the social events on short notice for a group that doesn't live up to its promises?

    Good work "editorial board". You've achieved your aim of stirring up controversy so that we actually realize we even had an "editorial board".

  • 12:56 p.m. on Dec. 1st, 2008
    Posted by
    Progressive Princeton

    Excellent and courageous editorial. Another reason showing why the clubs are hopelessly stuck in their pre-historic values.

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