Eighty-six students were taken off the University’s waitlist last week, a figure that may reflect the University’s diminishing yield on admissions.
This year, 1,526 students were initially placed on the waitlist, more than 300 more than in typical years, ...(back to the article)
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the stats do not mention that america insists on educating its enemies, i.e. muslims, asians and africans. instead of concerning itself with its own citizens these institutions are pulling this country apart. great job to schools whose interest is to bring this country to its knees and splinter it into a thousand pieces. what russia did not and could not achieve, these institutions are. hopefully the american public will wake up and start ignoring the poor examples of good citizens.
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when upenn, harvard, princeton, yale etc start depending strictly on academic standards instead of what weird quality a student can bring to the campus, then we can see an improvement in the leadership in this country. As long as we see these institutions accept and look for weird students (kids that play with a racoon on a full moon and watch the sexual habits of a cricket)we will have a poor educational system and we will continue to see this country slide in mediocrity.
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princeton, harvard, yale, dartmouth, brown and upenn pretend to be the cream of the crop and that they supply the top of the line leadership. How sad, is this the very same leadership that has sent this country into it's 3rd world status? Are these the same intelectuals that are allowing our educational system to deteriorate into a mediocroty? how sad. all this pretending of greatness. all this nonsense. With all the supposed diversity and supposed equality b/s, these school still teach separation, racism, and a double standard.
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Princeton will always be viewed as elitist and obsessed with itself mainly because it is. Students who go there that were once very conscientious and humble in high school shed this persona almost the second they get the acceptance letter. I would say the same goes for Harvard. It is sad to see this still be the case even after all these years.
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I can't agree that our "identity" is socioeconomically homogeneous. Historically, perhaps- but Princeton's identity is an institution of motivated, capable, hard-working individuals who want to make full use of their capabilities to create a better future. In America, this has relatively little to do with socioeconomic background.
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The beauty of this is that with a wealthier applicant pool, there are fewer claimants for financial aid, and offers can appear more generous without having to come through as often.
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We are inherently an elitist institution. Our socioeconomic diversity has never been on par with that of harvard and yale, and I would be remiss if I didn't say that the University would have it no other way. It's our identity.
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Don't worry about the "targeting lower-income students" bit. Yale, Harvard, and Stanford will be getting them. Their new finaid plans have overtaken Princeton's by quite a bit.
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News Flash: most Americans don't care about the image of Princeton. Trying to adjust it for them will fall on def ears and blind eyes.
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@ "The Image": That may be a goal, but I don't think that is going to get fixed, no matter what the administration does. I would say that image doesn't reflect the current campus culture, and didn't reflect it when I was there either. Sure, if you go into Ivy for dinner you might come away viewing the campus as elitist, but you could do that at any college campus if you just showed up at the right place at the right time. Princeton will always be branded as an "Ivy League" school, with all those conotations. Even if we "fix" our house (which I don't believe needs fixing), we still get tainted by the Yales of the world. Our tuition cost is still sky high. The only time our "image" will change will be when our endowment has finally reached the point that EVERY student, regardless of need, attends the University for free. @ Anonymous: I disagree. Even if they take people with lower academic qualifications (doubtful), it is the average that gets reported. That just means they'll take more 1600 / 4.0 people who have never talked to a high school classmate over the 1500 / 3.8 person who did everything at their high school. The academic selectivity of the University won't get hurt, but it could affect what I loved best about a "Princeton student" in years past.
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I assume the goal, in part, is to improve Princeton's "image" nationally so that it will appear less elitist, more egalitarian, serving a diverse student body with "a face like America" admitted on merit.
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Unfortunately, given that the administration has chosen to strongly couple eliminating ED with targeting lower-income students, the academic profile of the class will also probably drop. That, even more than the yield reduction, will hurt the academic selectivity image of the university.
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“We have a responsibility to find students who have great need.” -- Um. What? I assume this was taken out of context. The new process allows the admissions office greater flexibility in constructing its ideal class to exact specifications. Based on comments like this, and others, I'm not sure that's entirely a good thing. If we're going by "great need" then at least half the class better be Burmese. I wish I was more enthralled by academic buzzwords. Are we targeting recruiting efforts in Appalachia?
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The Princeton yield rate for the Class of 2011 was 67.7% (1,838/1244). http://registrar1.princeton.edu/data/common%5Ccds2007.pdf
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For the Class of 2011, the yield rate at Harvard was 78.7%, (2,108/1,659) and the yield rate at Yale was 69.1% (1,911/1320).
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Downplaying expectations
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