The highlight of our spring has come and gone. I'm talking about Lawnparties: I Pledge Allegiance to the Preppiness Spring '08. For one (sort of) sunny weekend we threw aside our individuality in a fit of conformity like little minions ...(back to the article)
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I just wanted to say that I find it extremely amusing that a harmless humor piece about preppy Princeton students has resulted in epic flamewar about grammar and comment signatures. Oh, you crazy kids, you.
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JORDAN - you capitalize the first word of every sentence? THAT seems to have been a waste of your whoever's money pays for you to sit here and complain that the students or university or world is not liberal enough for you. YOU tell em, mr. revolutionary.
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Hahahahahahahaha... that was a zinger Jordan! Booyah! Take that! It's funny how easily someone can be nudged off of his moral high-horse.
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And "Anon 08"--dick-ish ramblings are douche-y regardless of whether or not they're anonymous, so check yourself. Also, because ad hominems are fun--I hope you're on financial aid, because otherwise you spent way too much time and money here to have not learned to capitalize the first word in a sentence.
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It's not "forcing" people to attach their names unless the norm, or the just method, is to permit anonymous comments. Given that Letters to the Editor don't cease to exist just because you have to affix your name--no, I wouldn't say that free speech ceases to exist just because you "pretend" that you're "forced" to sign your name.
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Funny stuff. Great work.
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Extremely lame.
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Please never, ever, touch a keyboard again. Congratulations Prince opinion section, you've outdone yourselves. Was this some elaborate hoax by the news staff to appear like good writers in comparison?
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this was a terrible column. people who like pastels in the springtime wear them. people who don't, don't. it's really quite simple. if many of us seem to conform to one style of dress, it might have something to do with human nature and the lovely atmosphere of a suburban campus with trees, shrubbery and even pastel flowers. but i'd also venture to say that you did not take a random sampling of the princeton population. had you taken a look at each and every lawn party on the street, you might have found some where clubs took an ironic approach to the preppy pastels. and before the anti-anonymity police admonish me, i'd just like to say that it's better to be anonymous and provide honest insightful criticisms than provide dick-ish ramblings with a name attached.
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Listen, J Bubs, you probably made some pretty compelling points in your last post - although, to be honest, I wasn't able to bring myself to wade through your sludge. Let's just assume for the sake of the argument that you're right and anonymous posters are the spawn of Satan (although not the Christian Satan since Christians represent everything wrong in America) - then what? Should we force people to identify themselves when posting comments? If not, then why are you about to pop an artery when people post anonymous comments? If so, then wouldn't that produce a chilling effect on the freedom of speech? Be careful what you wish for, sweetie pie.
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Well, I'm still amused; some people spend lots of time on Facebook, and I sit around listening to Kyuss and amusing myself with the NYT and this site--so be it. I'm about tired of this thread, though. To "YES, ANON": Before criticizing my logic, read what I said. I didn't say that writing was magically improved because a name was affixed to it, or anything else. Nor did I say that a piece of writing lost something because it was anonymous. (Check the Federalist Papers, or Kennan's Long Letter for good, anonymous writing.) When I mocked someone's logic, it was the idea that word vomit was validated if many people were producing it. My own point--from my first post--was that, if you're going to insult someone, or mock their writing, have the integrity to be open about it. I don't really give a shit about the insults on juicycampus; but it is kind of sad when people feel emboldened to be snarky because they can be anonymous. I also think it's pathetic when someone--and I've had people argue this over lunch--claim they have a right to post anonymously (something also evidence by people who were pissed about the fact that, for a brief period time, you had to register to comment). So, sure, I agree that a name doesn't make writing better or worse--but it's sad that you can't claim your thoughts as your own in a public forum, isn't it? AS FOR THE FAN OF RICK (IN THE POST ABOVE HIM): Sure, I'm wasting my time "valiantly fighting for a cause'? Calm down, kiddo--I'm just killing time because I don't feel like writing this paper, much like you are doing when you take time out of your busy day to reply to me. :-)
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i dont get these comments....she wrote a humorous article. is the prince above some humor at times? we all appreciate different kinds of humor. it might be funny to some (me) and less funny to others. why is everyone acting like she wrote this with the expectation of winning a pulitzer? there are better things to argue about, honestly
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Rick Astley, you may call attaching ones name to stupid words moronic, but I call it brave. Jordan is valiantly wasting his time fighting for a cause that nobody really cares about. That takes real guts.
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Jordan, the real issue here is that too many posters, including you, are resorting to ad hominem attacks instead of constructive criticism. The only difference between the anonymous posters and you is that they're not moronic enough to attach their names to their words (I'm a big fan of irony).
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Jordan - it's very admirable for you to sign your name to your comments, but what does that say about the CONTENT of your comments, as such? You admonished someone below to take a logic class - I'd ask that if you yourself have taken your own advice, review your notes. How a person signs their name, either as "anon" or as "jordan bubin" doesn't reflect on what they say. In other words, what I say is not right, wrong, justified or not based simply on whether I write it autonomously. "Hiding behind a title" does not take away from the content of what you write, and conversely, signing your name doesn't add anything to what you write. Writing should be judged based on just that - what is said, not who says it.
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Another anon: I didn't say don't call them out--feel free to tell them the article sucks. But have enough self respect to put your name on it rather than hide behind the title "another anon".
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You do whatever you want, Jordan, and I'll do whatever I want. This was a terrible article by any meaningful standard and deserves to be called out as such. Often when people write good articles (e.g., Medeiros's article published today, Wednesday) they receive positive feedback. If they write stuff like Brozynski, they'll probably receive the kind of negative, mocking feedback she's received below. If the precious Prince columnists can't handle this system, then I don't know what to say -- maybe stop writing their offensive dreck?
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To the anonymous poster who wrote : "There is a difference between the malicious use of anonymity seen on juicycampus and negative anonymous comments in response to petty columns." No, actually, there's not. Certainly, the author put themself out there, so from their perspective, they may expect something. From your perspective, or from the point of any other commenter, you are and remain an anonymous little troll. You undermine your own point in opening your electronic mouth when you write that "there's no point in putting your name down since you're saying nothing unique"; I would agree, and ask that you kindly keep your repetition of sheep noises to yourself. Also, take a logic class; the simple fact that there are "lots of negative responses" means nothing in terms of whether or not you ought to put your name down. Are you a freshman, or did you just feel personally attacked because you are one of the described clones--in which case, a sense of humor, as well as some self-awareness, may help. Negative anonymous comments on juicycampus and negative anonymous comments on the site seem pretty much the same thing--whether you're calling the writer a slut on juicycampus or asking her if she has friends (the first poster), you're still a jerk. Be a big kid and put your name on it, or bite your tongue.
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There is a difference between the malicious use of anonymity seen on juicycampus and negative anonymous comments in response to petty columns. As a journalist, the writer is putting herself and her opinions out there, and is well aware that she might draw a negative reaction (particularly considering the content of this article). She mindlessly criticizes others and there is not a single constructive note in this entire article. How else do you expect people to respond? And there really is no point in putting your real name here unless what you put is truly unique to you. There are so many negative responses to this article that it rids the purpose of claiming comments as yours.
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Did I go to Wendy's twice yesterday?
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i dont know where this whole dont say anything bad esp if your anonymous thing came from. I think this article is terrible, and the humor is trite and corny at best. And I hapepnd to be hones. This is a testament to the over-dramatiziation of some princeton students in general(i.e starting a huge campaign about anomynity over juicy campus). It's deffintely wrong to anonymously post wrong and hurtful things, but in reality what is on juicy campus is merely a projection of what is on the minds of the student body--whether you want to admit it or not. Regardless, if you have a problem with this post call me a coward and start a campaign over it; I won't be reading it.
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was princeton so empty of thought on monday that we had to run this terrible column? didn't anyone have anything to say?
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to the anon haters: No one forced you to read this, unless there is an armed and dangerous Christine Brozynski fan club running around campus making people read her column at gunpoint that I don't know about. (someone tell will scharf!) If you don't like Christine's style, then shut up and ignore her column and stop acting like pricks in the comments section, or at the very least grow a pair of cojones and use your own name when putting someone down. But throwing juvenile insults at her is hardly the solution and makes you look dumb.
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A cursory look around any lawnparties reveals not everyone is dressed in pastels... plus, where's the column lampooning how everyone magically dresses in tuxes Friday and coats and ties on Saturday? People take pride in the way they look... *gasp*
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This is a great humor piece. Loved the parting Cornell joke.
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Jordan is absolutely right. This article was *NOT* badly written. If you don't like it, fine, but there's no need to be venomously vituperative. GROW UP! BE MEN! or women, whatever.
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I think the article's amusing--Disclaimer. As for the comments--is this why anonymous comments returned? For petty people to whine and make cheap shots at columnists? I think the Prince screws up constantly, and has some bad writers, sure. If you think so, too, at least have the integrity to say so with your name attached. If not, please--keep your own word vomit to yourself.
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This is just stupid. What did we learn? Nothing
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I've got to say, Daily Prince... I and many others really, really hate this columnist's style.
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“This is one of the most schizophrenic things I've ever read.” ¶ ”,”,”
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You have all come a long way..........back. This is how we attended houseparties, proms, etc., back in the dark ages of the mid to late 1950's. On the other hand, all of us girls were "visitors" and Cannon Club was Cannon Club, and Elm Club was Elm Club and so on and on and on. Still, being a near neighbor of the "street", I did get to enjoy your week-end music!
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Nice column!
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...you know what to do. please feature this article.
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This is one of the most schizophrenic things I've ever read.
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Do you have friends?
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