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E-PrinceThe University has admitted a record-low 9.25 percent of the 21,369 applicants who sought admission to the Class of 2012. Only 1,976 members of the largest applicant pool in history were offered admission in the first admissions ...(back to the article)
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[Just more than 50 percent of the admitted students for the incoming class have received financial aid offers. Princeton offers “no-loan” policy for students qualifying for aid.]
The selection process should be financial need-based blind. Why are students getting financial aid offers at the same time that they are being accepted? Maybe "scholarship offers" is the better term to be used, or does Princeton discriminate against persons of non-color in the financial aid department?
The admissions and financial aid departments are separate at Princeton, unlike some other schools. Once admissions decides to admit people (need-blind) financial aid puts together an offer. Your question makes no sense. How can someone decide whether or not to commit to Princeton unless they know if they can pay for it? Therefore it makes total sense for that letter to be sent at the same time. As to the high percent, I would be upset if that number was less than 50% since knowing Princeton's generous financial aid policy (most middle-class students qualify), that would suggest the class is biased to the wealthy more than it already is.
I would love to see a detailed report on who was admitted. I feel that Princeton is not fair to middleclass New Jersey Students. I know a number of them who meet the qualifications discussed in this article and none of them were admitted.
You do realize that if you personally know 10 people with average (for Princeton) qualifications, you could only expect that one of them would get in--right? Or is it just "my nephew is really smart and didn't get into Princeton," so clearly they are discriminating against middle-class white people. Right.
As an alumni, it's sad to see that Princeton is moving so far into the diversity field that they are in fact discriminating against smart white children, regardless of how smart, talented they are! It's a zero sum game despite all the marketing from the admissions folks.
first of all, I never mentioned race. My concern is that middleclass NJ kids who are not children of alumni of alumni have no shot at Princeton and I would advise them not to apply. I know many more than 10 seniors who applied this year, some with perfect SAT scores in math who were not admitted. For you to go right to the race arguement says more about you than me. Economic discrimination is my issue.
Coming from a "middle-class NJ" background, from my high school year alone, 5 people were accepted to Princeton, of which only one was legacy. In the following years, at least 1-2 people were accepted per year. I certainly do not know what you mean by NJ middle-class residents having "no shot" at Princeton. I do know that having a perfect score in math alone is not particularly telling or indicative of exceptional achievement, especially at schools like Princeton, Harvard, or Yale. That is almost a minimum qualification or expected of you if you are to apply for anything remotely math/engineering related. There is certainly a much higher percentage of New Jersey students at Princeton than you give credit, most of whom are not legacies. In fact, with the exception of some of the larger states (like California or New York), New Jersey residents seem to compose of the highest percentage of students by state. Likely, it is also because Princeton is in New Jersey that many in-state students, regardless of their qualifications, will apply just to see if they have a chance.
that's a great record, which high school is it?
I think one general point about admissions is that over the past decade it has moved away from admitting based on academic achievement as a factor to false notions of "diversity." Racist policies towards whites and Asians will only be tolerated for so long.
I don't think white and asian students are discriminated in financial aid, but definitely in admissions itself.
Currently, more kids at Princeton are from NJ than any other state. About 1/3 of Princeton students are from here.